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EASY FACT
25-abr-2004, 02:21
HERO se ha convertido en uno de mis comics favoritos, la obsesion que puede provocar un obejeto, el alivio a una anciana, el ver las cosas desde el sexo opuesto, pero lo el capitulo que mas me fascino fue el cavernicola, este comic deberia estar en la linea de Vertigo no?

Dr.Who
25-abr-2004, 05:40
Originalmente posteado por EASY FACT:
...........este comic deberia estar en la linea de Vertigo no?

mmmmmm............no : )

no le encuentro meritos para que este en Vertigo.

Ramon L.
25-abr-2004, 06:54
El estar en Vertigo no depende de la "calidad" del comic si no del nivel de violencia, temas adultos y el contenido grafico que se muestra si Hero fuera Vertigo abriamos visto la ecena de sexo entre los amigos, al cavernicola destripar a los animales que mato y cosas por el estilo.

nightshadow
25-abr-2004, 10:08
me parecería buena idea que DC mudará a H-E-R-O a Vertigo, es uno de esos titulos que estaría mejor en una línea madura con mas libertad creativa y menos riesgos de ser cancelada por las bajas ventas... Monolith, Fallen Angel y Enginehead tambien los deberían de haber lanzado en Vertigo

EASY FACT
29-abr-2004, 10:05
Lo van a cancelar?
como?
cuando?
porque?


see ya

nightshadow
29-abr-2004, 10:21
Originalmente posteado por EASY FACT:
Lo van a cancelar?
como?
cuando?
porque?


No, aun no, aunque corre grave peligro de ser cancelado ya que es uno de los titulos del DCU con más bajas ventas (junto a Gotham Central y The Monolith)

Psicotrópico
29-abr-2004, 11:17
Estos son los t´tiulos DC Ongoing (a menos de que se me haya pasado una serie limitada) con bajas ventas y algunos ya cancelados, además de sus comentarios

(125) GOTHAM CENTRAL
03/ 2004: Gotham Central #17 -- 17,233 (+1.6%)
6 / 12 months: + 1.0% / -10.5%

Brubaker and Rucka's police procedural bonanza remains a stable seller. A collection of the first arc, titled BATMAN: GOTHAM CENTRAL, is released this week. Thankfully, this book won't take part in the upcoming Batman crossover, so it's safe to give it another try.


(126) PLASTIC MAN
03/ 2004: Plastic Man #4 -- 17,191 (-10.4%)

Okay, these numbers are quite terrible. If this was a Marvel book, I'd bet my jolly good fellow that it wouldn't last a year. Since DC usually give their titles a little more leeway (early on, at least -- and there are exceptions, as REIGN OF THE ZODIAC shows), one doesn't need to be entirely as pessimistic here.

Still, it's not alarmist to say that sales will have to improve soon, if PLASTIC MAN wants to stick around.




(129) PROMETHEA
03/ 2004: Promethea #29 -- 16,858 (-1.5%)

Smoooth. Nice and steady. Relax.


(130) 100 BULLETS
03/ 2004: 100 Bullets #49 -- 16,616 (-2.0%)
6 months: -3.8%

The book is on a bit of a decline of late, it seems. Might have something to do with the generous schedule that accommodates Azzarello and Risso's other DC work.


(140) TEEN TITANS GO
03/ 2004: Teen Titans Go #5 -- 15,274 (- 5.0%)

The decline keeps slowing down. Even for a TV show tie-in, though, this doesn't look too good.


(140) HELLBLAZER
03/ 2004: Hellblazer #194 -- 14,957 (-0.3%)
6 / 12 months: - 5.9% / -13.3%

Solid, as usual.


(142) SMALLVILLE
03/ 2004: Smallville #7 -- 14,673 (- 4.0%)
6 months: -49.9%

Finding its level, I guess, but it doesn't look very healthy.



(144) H.E.R.O.
03/ 2004: H.E.R.O. #14 -- 14,281 (+0.9%)
6 / 12 months: -18.7% / -29.9%

The book's freefall does seem to be ending, after all. Remains to be seen whether DC are happy with a niche around the 13-14,000 mark for H.E.R.O. -- provided it even stays there, at any rate.



(148) KINETIC
03/ 2004: Kinetic #1 -- 13,756

Jesus. Let's not sugar-coat it: These are really awful numbers for a debut issue, even if you ignore that there was a reasonable effort on DC's part to promote the launch of its new Focus line. Considering the usual drops a new title experiences during its first few issues, the coming months won't be pretty for KINETIC, in all likelihood; nor for the two remaining Focus titles, for that matter, if this is any indication.

In other words: If you'd like to try this book, I'd advise you not to wait for the trade paperback.


(150) MONOLITH
02/ 2004: Monolith #1 -- 16,640
03/ 2004: Monolith #2 -- 13,706 (-17.6%)

In theory, this isn't a horrible drop-off for a second issue, and reports that MONOLITH #1 (which had the disadvantage of being priced at $ 3.50) sold out from the publisher also give reason to be optimistic, particularly considering that the current climate in the direct market seems to be as hostile towards new, unproven concepts and characters as ever.

On the other hand, the book debuted rather low to begin with. As a DC Universe title, I'm not sure how much leeway it's going to get before the plug is pulled, but unless MONOLITH defies the usual patterns and stabilizes (or, preferably, increases) its sales quickly, I don't see much hope in the long-term, to be honest.


(151) WILDCATS VERSION 3.0
03/ 2004: Wildcats Version 3.0 #19 -- 13,539 (-50.0%)
6 months: -6.4%

Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.

In case you were visiting your Uncle Marty on Uranus in the last couple of weeks, WILDCATS VERSION 3.0, along with STORMWATCH, was recently cancelled. Looking at these numbers, it's not hard to see why. If COUP D'ETAT was a last-ditch attempt to increase sales on these books, it utterly failed.

Tragically, the announcement of the series' cancellation comes in the same month as original WILDCATS VERSION 3.0 penciler Dustin Nguyen's high-profile run on BATMAN starts, and the book will now end precisely one month before Nguyen was supposed to return to it -- coincidence, or a calculated effort to invest all of the attention Nguyen is no doubt going to get from the BATMAN gig in a more "convenient" project?

Personally I'm very sorry to see this title go. It's a clever, ambitious and genuinely innovative book.


(154) LUCIFER
03/ 2004: Lucifer #48 -- 12,923 (+0.1%)
6 / months: -4.9% / -8.0%

If you're an ongoing series and selling worse than WILDCATS, there should be cause for concern now, for obvious reasons.

Unless, of course, (a) you're a Vertigo title, which seem to be generally getting a little more rope for whatever reason, (b) you've been a very consistent seller, and (c) your collections do rather well.

In the case of LUCIFER, all three of these conditions apply, as far as I can tell, so the book shouldn't be in any immediate danger. Emphasis on "immediate," mind you.




(158) HARD TIME
03/ 2004: Hard Time #2 -- 12,406 (-27.4%)

That's a rather bad drop, especially for a book which debuted so low to start with. In a recent interview, HARD TIME writer Steve Gerber stated that DC has given the book "the green light for at least twelve issues." Unless the series' performance improves drastically in the next couple of months, it's going to get very ugly if they stick with that.


(160) BATMAN ADVENTURES
03/ 2004: Batman Adventures #12 -- 12,189 (+0.9%)
6 / 12 months: -9.8% / -4.9%

Remaining steady for now, slightly below the numbers from before the relaunch.


(161) JUSTICE LEAGUE ADVENTURES
03/ 2004: Justice League Adventures #29 -- 12,164 (-1.5%)
6 /12 months: - 9.0% / -16.5%

Borderline stable, hovering around 12-K.


(167) FALLEN ANGEL
03/ 2004: Fallen Angel #9 -- 11,163 (- 2.4%)
6 months: -33.2%

At long last, FALLEN ANGEL appears to be settling down, but it's sales are far from being on a comfortable level. A trade paperback is on the way, so there should still be some time and space left for improvement.


(168) LOSERS
03/ 2004: Losers #10 -- 11,038 (- 2.5%)
6 months: -27.0%

Look at LOSERS, for example. While single issue sales are a far cry from being satisfactory here as well, its success in the TPB department might be the reason behind writer Andy Diggle's recent comments that the book isn't in any immediate danger right now. (The critical acclaim and good word of mouth and activism by fans it's been getting, such as here for example, probably didn't hurt, either.)


(171) STORMWATCH
03/ 2004: Stormwatch #20 -- 10,488 (-62.3%)
6 / 12 months: -13.4% / -36.4%

Cancelled. Like WILDCATS, this book doesn't seem to have benefitted in any significant way from COUP D'ETAT, making it hard to rag the publisher for the decision to pull the plug.

If you want to express your support for STORMWATCH, by the way, you can do so here, by "preordering" the third trade paperback, which DC allegedly cancelled, but which still has an entry at Amazon.

(176) HUMAN TARGET
03/ 2004: Human Target #8 -- 9,629 (- 2.7%)
6 months: -33.1%

One more book to worry about. Apart from its animated series tie-ins, this is DC's lowest-selling ongoing title which hasn't been cancelled yet. Similar to FALLEN ANGEL and LOSERS, HUMAN TARGET seems to be finding its level now slowly but surely following a bad decline, but it's awfully low already. A collection of the first five issues, titled HUMAN TARGET: STRIKE ZONES, was released a few weeks ago and arrived in my mailbox today.





(213) REIGN OF THE ZODIAC
03/ 2004: Reign of the Zodiac #8 -- 5,653 (- 7.5%)
6 months: -55.6%

Ah, yes, there's REIGN OF THE ZODIAC, as well. It's another bad drop this month, but they've been getting smaller. The fact that this is the final issue doesn't stop DC from proclaiming that this is where "a new storyline begins" on their website. From a sales standpoint, the plug isn't pulled a month too soon, I imagine.


(232) KAMIKAZE
03/ 2004: Kamikaze #6 (of 6) -- 3,993 (- 5.2%)

nightshadow
29-abr-2004, 09:17
esperen la pronta cancelación de Fallen Angel, Monolith, Plastic Man, Smallville y absolutamente todos los titulos del sello FOCUS... ninguno de ellos sobrevivirá para el año que entra (aunq' a la mera y Plastic Man sobrevive gracias su nominación a un Eisner)