Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins

[Allagea]

Originalmente publicado por Bote

Pa la siguiente temrina o trilogía?

La idea era trilogía, pero dado que no le fue muy bien en taquilla está en veremos, aunque todavía es posible.

Originalmente publicado por Hush

Porque nadie entiende las reglas básicas del time travel = Alterar el pasado = Crear futuro alterno ?

O... no

[gainax vol.2]

McG ya planea la siguiente pelicula

Q: Any update on the status of the next Terminator film?

McG: Yeah, we're working on it right now. We're very far down the line with the story for that – for the next picture, and even the picture after that, and feeling good and we'll see where that takes us. I'm prepping 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea right now and I'm looking at Spring Awakening, but also the notion of the next Terminator – I mean, we're making it. Warners is excited about it. Sony is excited about it. And we can't wait to get back at it and show the world what becomes of that war and how we master time travel because we stayed away from time travel in Salvation and I missed it. We decided it was the right thing to do and we did a lot of things right in that movie and we did many things wrong in that movie. And we'll learn from the experience and we'll grow and I think the next movie is going to be even more exciting and a better film.

Q: What did you learn, where did you succeed and where did you not with Salvation?

McG: I think the film missed some of the fun that Jim [Cameron] brought to the early pictures. I'm a disciple of Jim. [Expletive], yesterday I was down in Baja at the tanks he built for Titanic scouting 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. We'll bring a little bit more relief in that [fun] capacity. Not to the degree that you saw in the third picture, but a little bit more than ours. We wanted to be very, very nose to the grindstone and really establish credibility and it worked in many ways and it was unsuccessful in other ways, because it wasn't a unanimous world of "[Expletive] yeah, we love Terminator Salvation." There were plenty of people who kicked us in the ass over it. But the film will end up doing about $400 million bucks and internationally it was very well received – better than it was here in the States. But we live in a domestic intensive, Hollywood film world and I take it very personally. I take it very seriously. And clearly I didn't do a good enough job on that picture and I didn't satisfy the fanbase to the degree that I would expect to satisfy them. And I take that very seriously and I just work that much more diligently to make sure I do that in the next one.



Toda la entrevista aqui... http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/101/1011868p1.html

[Karmix]

pues la vi el fin de semana y me gusto por palomera y de harto balazo y accion. No vi la tres, y por lo visto no era como que indispensable. Buen "cameo" el del gobernator, y harta nostalgia y guiños al publico como las frases clásicas: "I´ll be back" y "Come with me if you want to live"

[Macendale]

Originalmente publicado por Karmix

pues la vi el fin de semana y me gusto por palomera y de harto balazo y accion. No vi la tres, y por lo visto no era como que indispensable. Buen "cameo" el del gobernator, y harta nostalgia y guiños al publico como las frases clásicas: "I´ll be back" y "Come with me if you want to live"

Y que tal cuando se atraca la moto? No les agrado el que usaran "You could be mine"?

[Kal]

Originalmente publicado por Macendale

Y que tal cuando se atraca la moto? No les agrado el que usaran "You could be mine"?

Oh como pude olvidar eso, esa escena me hizo sacar una sonrisa

[Supermean]

Ya la vi ayer y puedo decir que no me defraudó, probablemente la mala imagen de la tercera parte me dejó tan mal sabor de boca que el listón que tenía que superar esta cuarta película estaba tan bajo, que lo pudo rebasar fácilmente. Claro, siento yo que hubo algunos "plot holes" y demás situaciones a mi parecer incongruentes pero en general me entretuvo bastante, de lo mejor es definitivamente cuando Connor enfrenta al Terminator con el rostro de Arnold, lástima que durara tan poco, me hubiera gustado que ese Terminator hubiera dicho algo, cualquier cosa.

Aunque no puedo decir que sea mejor que las dos primeras películas, es un alivio ver que esta saga se ha recuperado al menos un poco del golpe bajo que resultó ser Terminator 3, y pueda continuar esta historia al menos una película más.

7/10

[Bernardo]

Productores de "Terminator" se declaran en bancarrota

19/08/2009 | EFE.-Los Angeles (EU). Los productores de Terminator - La Salvación se declararon en bancarrota por no poder pagar las deudas generadas por la película, un crédito financiado, entre otros, por Christian Bale o Arnold Schwarzenegger, informó el diario Los Angeles Times.

Derek Anderson y Victor Kubicek, propietarios de los derechos de la exitosa saga cinematográfica Terminator, se acogieron el martes a la ley de quiebras para sus tres empresas (T Asset Acquisition Company, Dominion Group y Halcyon Holding Group) con las que pagaron Terminator - La Salvación a pesar de la rentabilidad del filme.

La producción, que contó con un presupuesto de 200 millones de dólares, recaudó casi 370 millones de dólares en todo el mundo, una cifra a la que deberá sumarse lo que obtenga por la distribución en DVD que aún no ha salido al mercado y otros ingresos menores.

La bancarrota se presentó un día después de que Anderson y Kubicek denunciaran a sus inversores por presionarlos para tomar una serie de decisiones equivocadas que les llevaron a una situación que califican de embargo ilegal sobre sus propiedades.

La lista de compañías y particulares que financiaron Terminator - La Salvación incluye a nombres conocidos en Hollywood, aunque no ha trascendido la cantidad que aportaron al filme.

Sí se conoce que el fondo de capital riesgo Pacificor de Santa Barbara concedió 30 millones de dólares para la compra de los derechos de Terminator y 9 más para los gastos de la película.

Entre los afectados por las consecuencias de la bancarrota están el protagonista de Terminator - La Salvación, el actor Christian Bale, y el director de la cinta, McG, así como el gobernador de California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, estrella de las primeras historias de la saga.

Al acogerse a la ley de quiebras, Anderson y Kubicek deben presentar un plan para resolver sus deudas.

[Karmix]

a ver, no entiendo. Si la pelicula costo 200 y genero 370 ¿por pura logica no ha generado ya una ganancia? entonces ¿por que declararse en quiebra?

[Scatha]

muchas veces es por cuestiones que estos articulos pasan por alto: las ganancias no llegan directamente a las productoras e inversores.

Por un lado, la taquilla internacional, si no la distribuye el propio estudio, tiene que repartirse entre las distribuidoras internacionales y la que produjo la pelicula, asi que no siempre llegan a tener ganancias por el mercado internacional. El ejemplo mas claro es "The Golden Compass" que internacionalmente dio creo que 300 millones de dolares pero el estudio no recibio ni un centavo porque vendieron los derechos internacionales. Tambien esta el hecho de que las distribuidoras comparten un margen de ganancias con los cines, por lo que las peliculas tienen que dar mucho dinero para tener verdaderas ganancias. Esta tambien el detalle que el mercado americano es el mas importante, porque ese dinero es el que llega a los productores, por eso si la pelicula fracasa ahi, entonces ahi es cuando llegan a haber dolores de cabeza, por lo que el mercado de Jugetes y parafernalia tienen que amortiguar el golpe.Un ejemplo es Watchmen, que genero mucho dinero, pero de eso tuvieron que compartir un porcentaje con la Fox por la demanda, lo internacional se lo quedo la Paramount por su papel de distribuidora internacional y lo que queda una parte fue a los cines y solo una fraccion llego a la Warner.

[X-Treme]

Originalmente publicado por Karmix

a ver, no entiendo. Si la pelicula costo 200 y genero 370 ¿por pura logica no ha generado ya una ganancia? entonces ¿por que declararse en quiebra?

No le llegan los 370 MDD al estudio. Por lo general, como un 90% de las ganancias de la pelicula en los primeros dias va para los estudios, hasta llegar hasta como un 10% en los ultimos dias que esta en cartelera. En general, como la mitad de las ganacias en EU va para ellos, el resto a los cines.

En lo que respecta a la taquilla internacional el porcentaje puede ser igual o mucho menor, dependiendo de la distribucion.

[Hush]

Originalmente publicado por X-Treme

No le llegan los 370 MDD al estudio. Por lo general, como un 90% de las ganancias de la pelicula en los primeros dias va para los estudios, hasta llegar hasta como un 10% en los ultimos dias que esta en cartelera. En general, como la mitad de las ganacias en EU va para ellos, el resto a los cines.

En lo que respecta a la taquilla internacional el porcentaje puede ser igual o mucho menor, dependiendo de la distribucion.

Que les sirva de lección para no revivir franquicias con finales cerrados como lo fue T2.

[samurai1600]

apenas antier vi Terminator Salvation y debo decir q sin ser la 8a maravilla ni acercarse si kiera a lo grandiosas q fueron la 1 y la 2 es un buen intento q deja d lado la trama abusada en la 3 y la serie del terminator enviado al pasado para adentrarse de una vez en un 1er acercamiento d lo q es la guerra contra las maquinas! presentando nuevos robots q no aparecen d relleno sino q funcionan en las escenas d accion y resultan el punto fuerte d la pelicula equilibrando la falta de buenas actuaciones!

entretiene de principio a fin a pesar d sus fallas en la trama, risas involuntarias con la Sra Burton e incoherencias como q sea mas facil entrar al centro de mando d Skynet q a una sala d cine sin pagar!!! en fin! no es Cameron, es McG!!!! no da pa' mas!!! entrego un buen resultado pero no es para reprobarlo...

y premio al q m diga COMO DEMONIOS SKYNET SABE D LA IMPORTANCIA DE KYLE REES EN EL FUTURO O PASADO SI NO HAY LA MINIMA FORMA D Q HASTA EL MOMENTO SE ENTERE D LO Q VA A OCURRIR!!!!!!

[Hush]

Originalmente publicado por samurai1600

y premio al q m diga COMO DEMONIOS SKYNET SABE D LA IMPORTANCIA DE KYLE REES EN EL FUTURO O PASADO SI NO HAY LA MINIMA FORMA D Q HASTA EL MOMENTO SE ENTERE D LO Q VA A OCURRIR!!!!!!

It's a McG plot, what did you expected?

[Bernardo]

The Rights to The Terminator Franchise Are Up for Sale Again
Source: The Los Angeles Times September 29th, 2009

The Los Angeles Times reports that the rights to the Terminator franchise are again up for sale.

Derek Anderson and Victor Kubicek, who nabbed the science-fiction franchise in 2007 for $25 million and produced this year's Terminator Salvation, are apparently looking to sell the rights "partially or outright as several companies owned by the duo work their way through bankruptcy."

Anderson and Kubicek own Halcyon Holding Group. They recently hired the financial advisory firm FTI Capital Advisors, if the bankruptcy court approves, to "evaluate strategic alternatives," they said in a statement. Any deal for the rights would have to have an investment in, or outright sale, of said rights.

The Terminator came out in 1984 but the rights to the franchise have been sold more than any other major Hollywood film series. When the film was released, Hemdale Film Corp. (the film's production company), owned a 50% interest in the property. Director James Cameron sold the other half of the rights to producing partner and future wife Gale Anne Hurd for $1.

Carolco Pictures, which was owned by producers Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna, then picked up Hemdale's stake in 1990 for $10 million. They subsequently released Terminator 2: Judgement Day the next year. In 1997, after Carolco filed for bankruptcy, they started a new venture, C2 Pictures. C2 then bought the rights "for $8 million and the remaining 50% from Hurd for $8 million."

Then in 2007, Kassar and Vajna sold off their rights to newbie producers Anderson and Kubicek. Since then there have been filings, more filings and more time spent in courts.

So the big question now is will we see Terminator 5? Terminator Salvation director McG and star Christian Bale had been high on creating more stories for the franchise, but with the rights changing hands yet again this could make things tougher for that to happen. Also, it seems that the movie was something of a box office disappointment for it's studio Warner Bros.

[Deus Ex Machina]

Lástima que pase esto, a mí de verdad me gustó T-Salvation.

[Bernardo]

The Terminator Franchise to Be Auctioned Off
Source: Financial Times November 2nd, 2009

The Financial Times has announced that The Terminator franchise will be auctioned off, which has sparked considerable interest because "Terminator" is a unique example of a successful franchise not owned by a big studio.

FT says several financial buyers have expressed interest in Terminator, including Platinum Equity, the Beverly Hills firm that owns Delphi, the auto parts maker.

All the big film studios have also registered interest in the rights, with Sony Pictures a leading contender.

Summit Entertainment, the company behind the Twilight series, is tracking the sale, as is Media Rights Capital, which produced Sacha Baron Cohen's Bruno.

The rights are being sold by Halcyon, the production company behind Terminator Salvation. The auction does not cover earlier Terminator films. The rights will give the buyer to make new films, TV series and other spin-offs.

[ElExtrañoDr.Muerte]

hay que comprarla, hagan cooperacha

[Bernardo]

Terminator Franchise to Be Sold by February
Source: Variety December 3rd, 2009

The Terminator franchise to be sold by February In a story from Variety, the future of the Terminator franchise looks to be getting worked out.

Halcyon Holding Group announced today that it hopes to conclude the auction for the rights to the franchise by February 1 as part of its bankruptcy process.

"Over the past few weeks, Halcyon and its professionals have engaged in in-depth discussions and negotiations with numerous serious potential buyers, including several major movie studios," Halcyon stated. "In addition, a number of attractive refinancing alternatives have also been presented. In order to maximize the value of a transaction for all of the company's creditors and stakeholders, we are fully analyzing all these options."

One month ago, Halcyon had said that it would figure out by November 20 which offer would be the "stalking horse" and then set the minimum bid price for all the Terminator assets. This are "rights to future Terminator pics, TV series, DVDs and merchandise."

Halcyon says now that it isn't going to do that part of the process.

[Bernardo]

Terminator Rights May Go to Lionsgate
Source:Los Angeles Times January 13, 2010

The Los Angeles Times reports that Lionsgate's bid of $15 million in cash plus 5% of gross receipts from any future movies makes the studio the top bidder to buy the "Terminator" franchise rights from the Halcyon Group.

In a federal bankruptcy court filing today, Halcyon Group, the company owned by producers Derek Anderson and Victor Kubicek, named Lionsgate the "stalking horse" bidder for the rights. The duo put the franchise up for sale in September to raise cash to work their way out of Chapter 11 reorganization.

The designation of stalking horse means any other company that wants to bid against Lionsgate has to offer at least $750,000 more. The deadline for competitive bids is February 5th. A new owner of the "Terminator" rights will be determined by the bankruptcy court at a hearing on February 10th.

Sony Pictures and Warner Bros., which distributed Terminator Salvation, were interested in acquiring the rights as well.

[Bernardo]

Sony Puts in Bid for the Terminator Franchise
Source:Variety February 5, 2010

Sony has joined Lionsgate in the bidding on the rights to the "Terminator" franchise, reports Variety. The studio submitted a bid on Thursday, the final day for submitting offers.

Lionsgate stepped up last month as the first bidder for the rights to the "Terminator" franchise with a "stalking horse" or floor bid of $15 million and a 5% cut of future gross receipts.

Halcyon Group put the franchise up for sale in September. The auction for the assets--which include the rights to future "Terminator" movies, TV series, DVDs and merchandise--will be held Monday at the offices of FTI Consulting in Los Angeles, followed by a bankruptcy court hearing two days later.

If Lionsgate doesn't win the auction, it will receive $750,000 as a breakup fee from the winning bidder.

[Zam3d]

........

Esta mas barata la franquicia de Terminator que la de TMNT...